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In which Jaime required coffee in order to sit through the wedding vows. [x]
OMFG BEST MISTAKE EVER
Am I doing this right
Can we talk about Sam standing in front of a cauldron with the print “phosphor(ic)” on it though?
Because - as far as I can remember from chemistry class (which might be wrong, because I was horrible at chemistry - so if any of you know for sure that this is wrong, please tell me and I’ll delete this post) - phosphor as a chemical element basically translates as ~light. Quite telling I think, if I remember correctly…
Especially because we had countless shots of Sam in the light (because he is in a slightly healthier mindset atm than Dean) contrasted with Dean being in the dark. Which reminds me that last season Sam wanted to take Dean to the light already. I think now he needs to do that more than ever before - show Dean the light at the end of the tunnel.
And in that regard it might actually be a nice companion to THIS shot of Dean, which might be quite telling of where Dean might be headed…
A phosphor is something that luminesces, which isn’t quite light in general. Luminescence is a cold glow (just sayin’). However, in a factory like that it’s more likely to be phosphorus or phosphoric acid. The former’s used in fertilizers, and the latter in many things including household cleaners and your food.
Phosphoric acid is an interesting metaphor for Sam though, since in it’s common diluted form it’s nontoxic—but it’s got all this potential to break down bones and iron oxides.
(chargetransfer—you got any thoughts on this?)
Yup, I’d read it as phosphoric acid, especially with the “DANGER” written on the tank as well. What also makes phosphoric acid interesting is that it’s a triprotic acid - there are three protons that come off. It’s also one of the most common buffer systems and is quite important as a biological buffer.
And the phosphate group is vital for life - ATP (adenosine triphosphate) - is the molecule that is used most to perform work in the body, driven by the energy liberated by removing a phosphate to make ADP, then the energy it takes to pop one of those phosphates back on.
Phosphates are essential for life, so if something fucks with phosphorylation, you are out of luck.
So if phosphate or phosphoric acid have something to do with Sam, I think of it as the way he has to maintain balance.
There is actually another way to take this. (I have no idea if show is going for this interpretation, I just found it kind of interesting so I thought I’d share.)
One of the items up for sale in the auction on What’s Up Tiger Mommy? was something called the Amulet of Hesperus.
As far as I can tell, show made that up and there isn’t any actual/legendary amulet by that name.
But, Hesperus is a figure from Greek mythology. He’s the evening star or the planet Venus in the evening. (Which might call back the “reborn” Abaddon looking like Venus in the painting.) His brother is Phosphorus, or the planet Venus in the morning, the morning star. According to that wiki page I linked, Phosphorus is translated to Lucifer in Latin.
This kind of goes along with all the duality stuff since Hesperus and Phosphorus were originally thought of as brothers but were actually the same entity seen at different times of day.
In the episode, someone bought it, but we don’t know who or where it is now.
Oh wow, thanks guys for all the awesome additions. I also founf it, even if phosphor doesn’t really ~translate as ~light per se, because it reminded me of just what larinah says about Lucifer - the light bringer. And dear lord, do I love how it would indeed fit nicely with my meta about Abbadon’s rebirth as the Anti-Venus. Once again: Thank you for all the amazing additions!!! :’)
Sorry to reblog this again, but looking at your gif, you could almost take this as Sam feeling a little lost, like he walked into something he doesn’t understand, he looks over at the tank that could be seen (if you look at it with my slightly squinted eyes) as saying “Danger, Lucifer’s corrosive stuff”, and then he looks over at Dean and Gadreel where they are both lying/sitting in heaps on the floor.
And Gadreel and Lucifer are kind of a duality in themselves, aren’t they? The angel who claims he loved humanity and the angel who hated humanity. And they’re brothers, too, like Hesperus and Phosphorus who had the same mother, Eos, but different fathers. Hesperus’ father was the mortal, Cephalus, and Phosphorus’ father was a star god, Astraios. (And they’ve both been vesseled by Sam, so maybe he does understand!)
And presumably Lucifer talked Gadreel into letting him into the garden (if the stories about Gadreel are true and Lucifer is the serpent). Cain worked for Lucifer, right? Maybe part of the burden of the Mark is feeling the urge to obey him or something? (I don’t want to say it, but you know, August of 2014 is fast approaching :P)
Wow, this post is blowing my mind.
I agree you could see the amulet as foreshadowing Gadreel’s appearance. Hesperus, brother of the morning star - Gadreel, Lucifer’s brother. Both use Sam as a vessel. The articles linked to above talk about “Hesperus is Phosphorus”, sense and reference - Hesperus and Phosphorus the mythological figures are brothers, but actually represent the same ‘star’ at different times of the day, Venus in the morning and evening…
Gadreel and Lucifer represent the same issue - Sam’s bodily autonomy, his use as a vessel, his control over his life - dealt with differently. Sam said yes to Lucifer, planned and prepared for doing so. Dean tricked Sam into saying yes to Gadreel. Choice with open eyes in the morning, deception and violation in the evening.
How does the Mark fit in? Cain took the Mark to save his brother from being tricked by Lucifer, entering his service in his place, essentially saying yes in his place - Dean tricked Sam into saying yes to Gadreel to save him from death. Both Cain and Sam took the choice away from their brothers - not saying any brother was making a good choice (Rosalyn Rosenfeld’s observation that “sometimes in life all you have are fucked-up, poisonous choices” seems fitting here) but Cain and Dean took Abel and Sam’s choices out of their hands. (What was Lucifer’s brother Gadreel doing at this point? I think he was in prison getting tortured by Justin Bieber, and it’s not clear as far as I remember whether he was tricked into letting Lucifer into the Garden but that would make another nice parallel.)
What does Sam see when he comes back to the warehouse in the photo above? Gadreel and Dean are gone. Now your first thought would be, shit, he got loose and hurt Dean, but then he sees them in a bloody heap. For a moment, we were with Sam in being totally out of the loop again - in our absence, did Dean just move the plot along irrevocably without so much as a by your leave? Dean stopping Sam from wailing on Gadreel, sending him away and then killing the angel in his absence, as seemed possible for a moment, would be a continuation of the disregard for Sam that is the central part of their problems this season. Dean would’ve been taking the revenge for himself, for Gadreel conning him and turning what he thought was the right thing into something so terrible - privileging that over Sam’s right to decide what happens and what constitutes redress for what Gadreel did, when he was the one who was possessed and used.
The Mark was given by Lucifer after Cain stopped him messing with his brother, a mark of his service to Lucifer, of his taking Abel’s place. When Dean attacks Gadreel he seems to be under the Mark’s influence. I don’t think he’d have gone so far without it. He’s dazed and reeling when Sam finds him, not just from the fight if you ask me, from letting the Mark take over more than he ever has before, when Sam wasn’t there to pull him back quickly. The Mark nearly led Dean to taking Sam’s revenge/justice from him. It is putting Dean in the position he put Sam in - not having full control over what his body is doing. Slowly taking his brother’s place like Cain did for Abel. Nearly making him hurt Sam in a similar way again, taking a choice that should be his away.
And what do we see looming over this scene - Phosphorus. The Morning Star. Lucifer. Seeing his Mark do its work. He can’t wear Sam Winchester to the prom, but he’s worked his way into another Winchester. Sam and Dean are blood, brothers, bred to be perfect vessels - the same concept split into two figures, like Hesperus and Phosphorus, and heck, maybe that’s good enough for Lucifer.
tl;dr - Gadreel and Lucifer as the evening and morning stars, two perspectives on Sam’s bodily autonomy; the Mark as a sign of Cain and Dean taking their brothers’ places, with Lucifer, and in Dean’s case in terms of losing his own bodily autonomy, a nice little personalised twist that’s maybe part of the price Cain referred to; Sam and Dean as Hesperus and Phosphorus too, the concept of the perfect vessel in two bodies.
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